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M-K-T / Katy Frequently Asked Questions

Q1: One of our family members worked for the Katy years ago. We are researching our family tree and wondered if your society has any Katy employment records.

Answer: We regret that few if any records have survived the years and merger with the Union Pacific Railroad. No employment records were donated to the KRHS by the railroad. Because of the lack of records, the society will be unable to help in most requests for information. However the Red River Railroad Museum in Denison does have a few senority lists and a collection of M-K-T Employee Magazines. Many names of Katy employees are mentioned in these magazines.

A link to the Museum is below, also listed are many sites on the net that might be helpful in reseaching a loved one.

Q2: My family member was involved in a train wreck many years ago on the Katy. Does the KRHS have any information.

Answer: Unfortunely most records from the Katy were disposed at the time of the U.P. R.R. merger or lost over time. While none were donated to the KRHS, the interent can be used for research. The best source for this information is listed in the links below. The federal government sites listed may have detailed information on accident causes from the I.C.C. reports.

Links to assist in Genealogy Reseach and reseaching Train Accidents

Red River Railroad Museum - Denison,Texas
American Federation Of Railroad Police Inc.
Federal Railroad Board - Genealogical Research Information
Ancestry.com - Social Security Death Index Search
Telephone Directory Search
Charlotte's Web Genealogical Dictionary
US GenWeb Project
Genealogy Toolbox
Cyndi's List
Clayton Genealogical Library
KATY Industries Home Page / Former M-K-T Parent Corp.
Info on MKT Railroad Employee Assoc.- Search Organizations
I.C.C. Historical Railroad Accident Reports 1911-66 * CLICK ON TABLE OF CONTENTS

Q3:I am looking for back issues of the KRHS magazine, The Katy Flyer and the KRHS Calendars, are any available to purchase.

Answer: A printable order form with a list of available issues can be found on this website. A link is provided on the left side of this page under Katy Flyer Back Issues. Many other society Katy research publication are listed on the order form.

Q4: Katy engines are several shades of red and have different lettering, how can I tell which era they are from.

Answer: There are four distinct eras for diesel locomotive paint schemes, with some variations within each era.

The first is named for Matthew S. Sloan, Katy President from 1933 to 1945 and lasts till the late 1950's. Mr. Sloan presided over the railroad during the start of the diesel era and beginning of the end for the steam engine. He is most remembered for the bright distinctive "Sloan Yellow" used on company equipment and structures during his tenure. The first diesel frieght and passenger engines were ordered with a scheme of overall bright red bodies, silver side panels, and cream yellow on top of the nose hoods. Heralds, numbers, and company lettering were different on each type but this is the easiest way to tell a Sloan era engine.

Next is named for Katy President William N. Deramus III and covers 1957 till 1965. Mr Deramus came to the Katy from the Chicago Great Western Railroad, during this period Katy changed to a red with a slight orange hue. The famous MKT herald was redesigned to a smaller and more plain design with red KATY lettering centered in a Dulux or gold leaf background with the herald and lettering outlined in black.

John W. Barriger III was appointed President of the Katy in May 1965. The original herald shape and color returned with the KATY retained and Missouri-Kansas-Texas spelled out in the banner. The red was slightly darker with a slight blue or purple hue. The red used during this era seemed a brighter shade but still tended to fade rather quickly. A large M-K-T with small engine numbers above were painted with on each side of the long hood of the GP-7's units. The new herald was placed under the cab windows of these units. Later GP-38 and 40's had the engine numbers on the cab side with the new herald on the hood ends and white stripes on the pilots.

The final era covers all equipment painted in what is sometimes called John Derre green and yellow, or as we call it Whitman green and yellow. So named for Reginald N. Whitman who was appointed Katy President in 1970, this era lasted till the merger with the Union Pacific in 1987/88. Most all equipment had green bodies with yellow 45 degree safety striping on the cab and both front and rear ends.

Q5: What model railroad paint is closest to Katy Red, Sloan Yellow, the later Katy Green and Yellow.

Answer: Katy Red is hard to match due to how fast the sun faded the color. Most people use Floquil ATSF red for the early diesel eras, in the Barriger era Floquil Bright Caboose Red is real close. Again all the reds faded quickly and road grime changed the color ever more. Sloan Yellow seemed to have a cream or orange hue depending on which photo is used for comparison. Floquil Reffer Yellow straight from the bottle works if you don't like a custom mix. I used DRGW Orange with a few drops of White, some suggest the Reffer Yellow with a few drops of White. The late desiel era is the easiest as Floquil makes a Katy Green, Reffer Yellow is what most use for the later yellow.

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